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02/10/2011 03:30 PM Senate COMMUNITY & REGIONAL AFFAIRS


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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
    SENATE COMMUNITY AND REGIONAL AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                  
                       February 10, 2011                                                                                        
                           3:33 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Donald Olson, Chair                                                                                                     
Senator Thomas Wagoner                                                                                                          
Senator Linda Menard                                                                                                            
Senator Johnny Ellis                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Albert Kookesh                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALASKA'S MAYORS FORUM                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
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PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
JASON MALEMUTE, Mayor                                                                                                           
City of Koyukuk                                                                                                                 
Koyukuk, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT: Explained problems facing the City of                                                                     
Koyukuk.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
VERNE RUPRIGHT, Mayor                                                                                                           
City of Wasilla                                                                                                                 
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT: Explained problems facing the City of                                                                     
Wasilla.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ALBERT HOWARD, Mayor                                                                                                            
City of Angoon                                                                                                                  
Angoon, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Explained problems facing the City of                                                                     
Angoon.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
DELENA JOHNSON                                                                                                                  
Mayor, City of Palmer                                                                                                           
Palmer, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:  Explained  problems   facing  the  City  of                                                             
Palmer.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SHIRLEY MARQUARDT, Mayor                                                                                                        
City of Unalaska                                                                                                                
Unalaska, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION  STATEMENT:  Explained  problems   facing  the  City  of                                                             
Unalaska.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
JERRY CLEWORTH, Mayor                                                                                                           
City of Fairbanks                                                                                                               
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:  Explained  problems   facing  the  City  of                                                             
Fairbanks.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
BERNA ANDREWS, Mayor                                                                                                            
City of Aleknagik                                                                                                               
Aleknagik, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:  Explained  problems   facing  the  City  of                                                             
Aleknagik.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
VIOLET BURNHAM, Mayor                                                                                                           
City of Kaltag                                                                                                                  
Kaltag, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:  Explained  problems   facing  the  City  of                                                             
Kaltag.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
PETE HALLGREN, Deputy Mayor                                                                                                     
City of Delta Junction                                                                                                          
Delta Junction, Alaska                                                                                                          
POSITION STATEMENT:  Explained problems facing the  City of Delta                                                             
Junction.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
LUKE HOPKINS, Mayor                                                                                                             
Fairbanks North Star Borough                                                                                                    
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:  Explained  problems  facing  the  Fairbanks                                                             
North Star Borough.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:33:57 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  DONALD  OLSON called  the  Senate  Community and  Regional                                                             
Affairs Standing Committee meeting to  order at 3:33 p.m. Present                                                               
at  the call  to order  were Senators  Wagoner, Ellis,  and Chair                                                               
Olson. Senator Menard joined the committee shortly thereafter.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
^Alaska's Mayors Forum                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                     Alaska's Mayors Forum                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
3:34:24 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR OLSON  announced that  the order of  business would  be the                                                               
Alaska's Mayors Forum.  He explained that this  is an opportunity                                                               
for communities to voice concerns before the committee.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:35:21 PM                                                                                                                    
JASON  MALEMUTE,  Mayor, City  of  Koyukuk,  said right  now  the                                                               
city's  laundromat is  the sole  source of  water for  the entire                                                               
community and  is in jeopardy.  He explained that they  have been                                                               
trying to get  the funding to build a new  facility but have been                                                               
running into walls.  This is their first time in  Juneau and they                                                               
have recently found  out that they are on a  GAO [U.S. Government                                                               
Accountability Office]  list of communities wishing  to relocate,                                                               
which is why they have not been  able to get funding.  Koyukuk is                                                               
not actively  seeking to relocate; this  was misinterpreted after                                                               
a large  flood in  1994. Floods  exist on  the flood  plains, but                                                               
their infrastructure is  not endanger of flooding.  He noted that                                                               
when the  laundromat is  not working, villagers  have to  drill a                                                               
hole in  the river ice  to get their  water. His main  concern is                                                               
the health and  safety of the community. Families  are moving out                                                               
of the  community because  of the  lack of  funding to  build new                                                               
homes.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:42:27 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WAGONER asked how many people live in the community.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MALEMUTE answered 100.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WAGONER asked about the size of the laundromat.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. MALEMUTE  answered it is  a two-story building with  a 5,000-                                                               
gallon  holding  tank.   It  was  constructed  in   1976  and  is                                                               
deteriorating.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WAGONER asked if they want to build a new facility.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. MALEMUTE  said the city  would like  to build a  new building                                                               
fairly close  to the old  one, because right  now it is  close to                                                               
the school, and it is the only water source in town.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WAGONER asked if there is a well.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. MALEMUTE  answered that  there is one  200-foot deep  well. A                                                               
water  and sewer  master plan  is not  completed which  calls for                                                               
filtering the water, but they just live with the water issue.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MENARD  said that  his  village  is very  fortunate  for                                                               
having elected him.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON asked if hepatitis is an issue in the village.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MALEMUTE  answered  no.  However,  there  are  other  health                                                               
issues.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON asked how large the community was 10 years ago.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MALEMUTE replied  it was  about the  same. People  leave and                                                               
their  housing goes  so  they  cannot return.  But  they want  to                                                               
return home. The population has fluctuated.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON asked when the school was constructed.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. MALEMUTE answered in 1979.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON asked if there are plans to build a new school.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. MALEMUTE replied not currently. The school is K-10th grade.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON asked how the city fights a fire.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. MALEMUTE  replied that the  city would  use snow or  water in                                                               
buckets, as well as fire extinguishers and volunteers.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON  said once a house  catches fire there is  no hope of                                                               
saving it. He asked about the  success of getting the village off                                                               
the GAO list.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MALEMUTE  answered  that  they are  planning  to  meet  with                                                               
officials in Anchorage.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON  said there has  to be a  way to facilitate  and help                                                               
get his community out of the situation that they are in.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. MALEMUTE  said it  is disheartening to  hear about  the other                                                               
villages  receiving a  lot of  aid, while  they have  been black-                                                               
listed. He reiterated that the  community is not actively seeking                                                               
to relocate.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MENARD said  a few  years ago  the legislature  passed a                                                               
bill which  allowed dental  therapists to  work in  remote areas.                                                               
She asked if the city has had access to dental therapists.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. MALEMUTE  answered yes.  The Tanana  Chiefs Conference  has a                                                               
program that comes out once every six months.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MENARD  said the dental  therapists are not  dentists but                                                               
they are  recognized by  the state  to be able  to do  many basic                                                               
dental procedures.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. MALEMUTE replied that he doesn't  know if this is the program                                                               
the city is working with.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:51:00 PM                                                                                                                    
VERN RUPRIGHT,  Mayor, City  of Wasilla, said  there have  been a                                                               
lot of injuries  on the Knik Goose Bay (KGB)  Road and the Mat-Su                                                               
Borough Road. He explained that the  state has made this a safety                                                               
corridor, and  it should  have been widened  many years  ago. The                                                               
South  Central Native  Corporation is  ready to  build an  80,000                                                               
square foot clinic  there, and Goose Creek Prison  will be coming                                                               
on-line.  The  Parks  Highway  from  Wasilla  is  also  extremely                                                               
dangerous.  The  City of  Wasilla  has  grown approximately  95.5                                                               
percent in  nine years,  to a population  of 11,000.  The greater                                                               
Wasilla area will  likely be redistricted into  another House and                                                               
Senate   district.  Yet   the  city   doesn't  have   the  needed                                                               
infrastructure. People  prefer to live  in the Mat-Su  Valley and                                                               
the population  has exploded around them.  Their sewage treatment                                                               
plant needs to be upgraded. A lot  of money has been put into the                                                               
Parks  Highway, but  it dumps  right  into the  KGB area.  Coming                                                               
through the town  there are road jams every day  and the city did                                                               
not receive any state funding for FY11.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:57:01 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR OLSON  asked what the Department  of Transportation's (DOT)                                                               
stance has been in putting alternate ways around the KGB.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. RUPRIGHT  answered there  was a  plan to  bypass the  city of                                                               
Wasilla, but the fear in the  late 1990's was that it would "kill                                                               
their businesses."  Now in  hindsight, it would  not have  hurt a                                                               
thing. DOT has looked at it, but it is a low priority.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON  asked about the  safety corridors and  whether these                                                               
are helping.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. RUPRIGHT replied that people  get impatient and they jump out                                                               
into  traffic. He  said it  is  not just  a city  problem, but  a                                                               
regional problem. With  the introduction of the  new prison, this                                                               
issue is only going to grow;  with 1,500 inmates, the prison is a                                                               
city in itself.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:02:57 PM                                                                                                                    
ALBERT  HOWARD, Mayor,  City  of Angoon,  said  the community  of                                                               
Angoon has  472 people  and an unemployment  rate of  80 percent.                                                               
They have  a solution to this  problem; they just need  some help                                                               
in order  to get there.  He explained  that one solution  to high                                                               
energy  costs is  looking  at hydropower.  However,  the city  is                                                               
located in the middle of  a national monument. The Forest Service                                                               
is supposed  to co-manage the  area with  the city of  Angoon. It                                                               
seems  that  whenever  the  Forest Service  wants  to  develop  a                                                               
project it happens, but when the  city wants to develop a project                                                               
it is very difficult. Angoon's  existing water source is a beaver                                                               
damn, and  if this collapses  the community will not  have enough                                                               
water. Alaska  Native Tribal  Health has done  a study  on future                                                               
water  projects, and  they are  asking for  $900,000. The  Forest                                                               
Service is  telling the  city that  they have  to trade  lands to                                                               
make  this project  happen, but  when Admiralty  Island was  made                                                               
into a national  monument the community was told  it was entitled                                                               
to build under Title 11.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Currently, the  Forest Service  is allowing  Angoon to  build its                                                               
hydro plant  at one megawatt.  It has  the potential for  ten. He                                                               
reiterated that  the city  is trying to  find solutions  to their                                                               
problems.  On their  projects list  they have  two projects  that                                                               
will  bring revenue  into  their community.  One  result of  high                                                               
unemployment  is the  lack of  hope, which  leads to  alcohol and                                                               
drug abuse. Their  children don't leave the  community after high                                                               
school and  don't go to college.  The trend that is  happening is                                                               
the younger  children hang out  with the older children  and they                                                               
see  drinking as  the example  of what  to do.  He said  they are                                                               
tired of handouts.  They do not want welfare. They  want to teach                                                               
future generations that "if you  want something then you work for                                                               
it." They are trying to move  as quickly as possible to get their                                                               
community caught up  to the rest of Alaska. He  stressed that the                                                               
city's greatest immediate need is low cost energy.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:11:37 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WAGONER  asked about the potential  for hydro development                                                               
and whether the city is  working with the Alaska Energy Authority                                                               
(AEA) on this project.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOWARD answered that AEA  requires an operational maintenance                                                               
cost of  22 cents  per kilowatt. The  corporation wants  14 cents                                                               
per kilowatt.  So they are  back up to  36 cents a  kilowatt, and                                                               
then  the utility  needs its  share, so  they are  back up  to 60                                                               
cents.  He explained  that many  of the  problems are  political,                                                               
rather than economic.  Working on this project with  AEA would be                                                               
adding a middleman.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:14:09 PM                                                                                                                    
DELENA  JOHNSON, Mayor,  City of  Palmer,  said in  the last  few                                                               
years the city has received  stimulus funding which have had some                                                               
major benefits;  however, as  a result  there are  more municipal                                                               
employees  on PERS  [Public  Employee  Retirement System].  After                                                               
these  projects have  been completed  those  PERS accounts  still                                                               
exist, even  if the position no  longer exists. The city  will be                                                               
forced to do termination studies, at  a high cost to the city, or                                                               
to keep those positions filled. She  said they have also had some                                                               
compliance  issues  at their  state  airport.  They work  towards                                                               
getting things in compliance but  they can't meet that compliance                                                               
without federal funds. However, now  that they have received ARRA                                                               
[America Recovery and Reinvestment  Act] funding the FBI [Federal                                                               
Bureau of Investigation] plans on investigating them for fraud.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:19:29 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WAGONER asked what kind of investigations.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. JOHNSON answered that this is  a general overview on the ARRA                                                               
funding.  Having the  FBI say  it will  be investigating  all the                                                               
ARRA grants for fraud is very frightening.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WAGONER  said there  are some  cases that  do need  to be                                                               
looked at.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. JOHNSON replied  she wants the committee to be  aware of this                                                               
situation. She  does not believe there  has been a time  when the                                                               
City of Palmer  has spent federal funds that did  not go where it                                                               
was supposed to.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WAGONER commented that show  that sometimes federal funds                                                               
should be denied when it's offered.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:23:40 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease from 4:23 p.m. to 4:25 p.m.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:25:28 PM                                                                                                                    
SHIRLEY  MARQUARDT,  Mayor,  City  of  Unalaska,  said  that  the                                                               
Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)  is insisting that the city                                                               
build  a  new  sewage  treatment   plant,  which  is  creating  a                                                               
financial  hardship   for  the  community.  In   2000,  the  city                                                               
completed construction  of a $3.2  million upgrade to  its sewage                                                               
treatment  plant, using  a plan  that  was approved  by both  the                                                               
Alaska Department  of Environmental  Conservation (DEC)  and EPA.                                                               
In October of 2003 Unalaska applied  for a renewal of its permit.                                                               
In  November  of  2003  EPA  issued  a  draft  permit  containing                                                               
treatment limits  that would require the  three-year-old plant to                                                               
be replaced. EPA  is now threatening the city with  a lawsuit and                                                               
fines. She  explained that  the city  was given  90 days  to come                                                               
into compliance  to finance,  design, and  construct a  new water                                                               
plant.  The   Department  of  Justice  has   strongly  urged  the                                                               
community to  shift all of  its funding  to this need.  The other                                                               
primary need  it has is  a new  landfill. This landfill  would be                                                               
necessary in order deal with  the sludge produced by new required                                                               
sewer treatment plant. The enhanced  treatment plant will require                                                               
a 170 percent increase  in rates; if the city is  forced to go to                                                               
secondary treatment,  the increase will be  200 percent, bringing                                                               
monthly water bills  of $150 per household to  the community. EPA                                                               
is  not basing  its position  to  require this  new treatment  on                                                               
human health  or safety.  It seems  to be  primarily an  issue of                                                               
forcing   Unalaska  to   comply  with   national  standards   and                                                               
guidelines.  Now the  city has  been  given until  early 2014  to                                                               
comply.  Regardless,  the  Department  of  Justice  continues  to                                                               
threaten  huge  fines.  This  is  unfair  to  Alaskans  that  are                                                               
struggling to do the right thing in a high cost environment.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WAGONER asked if Unalaska  officials have spoken with the                                                               
congressional delegation  to try  and get  them involved  in this                                                               
issue.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. MARQUARDT  answered yes. She  said the delegation  is looking                                                               
into  hopefully holding  some hearings  on the  Clean Water  Act.                                                               
When  the  city brings  this  talk  issue  forward to  them,  the                                                               
delegation asks what the state of Alaska is doing.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:33:43 PM                                                                                                                    
JERRY CLEWORTH,  Mayor, City of  Fairbanks, said the  city shares                                                               
the concerns of Palmer regarding  the termination studies of PERS                                                               
are  a  real  issue  for   all  of  Alaska,  especially  for  the                                                               
municipalities.  It  is  the city's  understanding  that  Senator                                                               
Paskvan has  a bill  that addresses  this issue.  Fairbanks' next                                                               
and largest issue  is energy. The city's energy  costs are rising                                                               
rapidly and  they are trying  to coalesce  around some kind  of a                                                               
plan.  The   Fairbanks  Industrial  Development   Corporation  is                                                               
promoting several bridge projects  and their delegation is trying                                                               
to come  together around  one plan. The  last problem  is revenue                                                               
sharing. The  security that they have  had in the last  few years                                                               
has  been good  because it  has been  stable and  they appreciate                                                               
that.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:38:26 PM                                                                                                                    
BERNA  ANDREWS, Mayor,  City of  Aleknagik, said  Aleknagik is  a                                                               
small village connected  by road through Dillingham.  The city is                                                               
trying  to upgrade  and  provide clean  water  to the  community,                                                               
however its sewage  pipe is over 20 years old.  They have a water                                                               
and  sewer feasibility  study  final report,  and  are trying  to                                                               
obtain funding  for an  upgrade. They  also have  safety concerns                                                               
about  their float  plane route.  They  have funding  for a  boat                                                               
storage yard, but need funding for  a float plane road. There are                                                               
issues with Alaska  DOT, and a large discrepancy  with the dollar                                                               
amounts. She explained  that DOT says it will  cost $1.5 million,                                                               
but the  Bristol Bay Native  Corporation says the figure  is $1.8                                                               
million. She stressed the city's need  for a float plane road for                                                               
the float plane  dock. Currently it is very  congested. She added                                                               
that the  city is  also in  need of heavy  equipment to  keep its                                                               
roads open.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:43:45 PM                                                                                                                    
VIOLET BURNHAM,  Mayor, City  of Kaltag, said  one of  the city's                                                               
priorities is  to provide or  build up  an economic base  for its                                                               
community. She  explained that the  city has experienced  many of                                                               
the  same  problems  and  concerns   that  the  mayor  of  Angoon                                                               
expressed. Kaltag  is trying to  complete construction of  a fish                                                               
processing  plant  that  was  started  in  1999.  They  ended  up                                                               
receiving a $200,000  loan which they are still  paying off. Last                                                               
year was the  first full year the plant was  open. This year they                                                               
are  trying to  put  together  a project  to  put  in a  concrete                                                               
platform where  the fish will  be brought in. They  are beginning                                                               
to  see some  progress regarding  unemployment. Last  summer they                                                               
had  35 people  working in  the plant,  and the  majority of  the                                                               
labor  force came  from Kaltag.  They are  hoping that  this year                                                               
with more  fishermen coming  on board  that the  processing plant                                                               
will be more successful. They  are expecting 10-15 fishermen, who                                                               
will  also  hire  within  the  community.  Getting  this  project                                                               
completed will offer the city  an opportunity to do other things.                                                               
There are a lot of young  families leaving and they hope they can                                                               
build up an economic base to keep people in the community.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:50:00 PM                                                                                                                    
PETE  HALLGREN, Deputy  Mayor, City  of Delta  Junction said  the                                                               
city tries to  serve about 1,100 people and  with the surrounding                                                               
area  the  city serves  almost  5,000  people. The  stability  of                                                               
revenue sharing  has been a big  help the last few  years, but he                                                               
would like to see more  substantial revenue sharing. One of their                                                               
capital project requests  this year is for paving,  which can cut                                                               
the  dust  dramatically. He  explained  that  having to  pay  for                                                               
various termination studies  for employees takes a  long time and                                                               
is not a good way to go  about it. All of the municipal employees                                                               
are on PERS, which makes the city avoid filling positions.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WAGONER asked how many employees the city deals with.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. HALLGREN answered that the  city has ten full-time employees,                                                               
and a number  of part-time employees. He explained  that the city                                                               
keeps  some  employees  part-time  so  it  doesn't  have  to  pay                                                               
benefits.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WAGONER  asked  if  it   has  looked  into  methods  for                                                               
contracting out services.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. HALLGREN  answered that the city  has and is trying  that out                                                               
right  now.  He  also  noted   that  the  Department  of  Natural                                                               
Resources (DNR)  recently sent the  city's Chamber of  Commerce a                                                               
letter  that  informed the  city  that  the department  would  be                                                               
charging  them higher  rental rates  for the  Sultan Road  House,                                                               
which is on property owned by the DNR.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:57:37 PM                                                                                                                    
LUKE  HOPKINS,  Mayor, Fairbanks  North  Star  Borough, said  the                                                               
issue of  termination studies impacting local  government is felt                                                               
in the  Fairbanks North Star Borough  as well. The city  has been                                                               
requested to respond  to the termination study and  hope that the                                                               
legislature will  consider the  legislation that  Senator Paskvan                                                               
will be submitting. He said  with regard to state infrastructure,                                                               
the bridge over  the Tanana River is important  to the community.                                                               
This is  an issue  of funding  but also EPA  has declared  that a                                                               
portion  of   the  Tanana  River   is  a  resource   of  national                                                               
importance,  so  this  makes  the  construction  more  difficult.                                                               
Regarding air  quality, Mr.  Hopkins said  Fairbanks is  the only                                                               
non-attainment area in the state  of Alaska. The borough assembly                                                               
has  addressed this  problem by  subsidizing residents  to change                                                               
out  old  wood   stoves  and  those  that   don't  meet  emission                                                               
standards. This  has come  from the city's  own general  fund and                                                               
there are a number of stoves  that still need to be addressed. He                                                               
asked  for  the  committee  to  look  into  assisting  the  local                                                               
government to insure  that the air quality standards  are met. He                                                               
explained that  finding a low-cost  energy solution  is important                                                               
for  the community.  He stated  that the  Fairbanks area  has the                                                               
highest price of  natural gas in the state. If  the city can find                                                               
a way to get a near term bridge energy solution, he hopes the                                                                   
legislature will be able to assist.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
5:03:59 PM                                                                                                                    
There being no further business to come before the committee,                                                                   
Chair Olson adjourned the meeting at 5:03 pm.                                                                                   

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